In an interview, Mr. Gutierrez rejected the idea that the timing is bad for an immigration debate. “There is never a wrong time for us,” he said. “Families are being divided and destroyed, and they need help now.”
HUH??? Let me understand, A person crosses into another country without permission, gets caught, gets sent back "HOME", but it is the country that he entered without permissions fault that his family is divided????
This is a joke. Seems more like President Obama and his socialist partners are merely trying to cultivate millions of potential new democrat voters to me.
I'll bet Obama's illegal alien aunt will be among the first to become a citizen under the new program. You know, the illegal alien aunt that is living in public funded housing in Boston, as taxpayer expense even though she was ordered deported 3 times, and defied those orders?
Presiden Obama Solution to Social Security and Immigration Reform Bill?
On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Commissioner of Social Security and The Director General of the Mexican Social Security Institute reached an agreement – ( http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03993.pdf) - the so-called Totalization agreement. Yes, it took three years of wrangling with Freedom of Information Act by the TREA Senior Citizens League to obtain the document entitled “Social Security – Proposed Totalization Agreement with Mexico”.
The seniors group (TREA) knew that if illegal aliens get legal status -- through an amnesty or some sort of legalization plan such as the one the President and the Senate tried to enact in 2006 -- it would allow illegal immigrants, mostly from Mexico, to gain legal status and access to Social Security benefits for their relatives, children and other dependents.
What the agreement reveals is that the United States will permit illegal aliens from Mexico to collect Social Security benefits if they have as little as 18 months of U.S. employment history. In contrast, U.S. citizens must show 10 years -- 40 quarters -- of perfectly legal job history to collect same Social Security benefits.
Despite the fact that it's illegal for employers to knowingly hire individuals who are in this country illegally, the agreement which awaits the President’s Obama signature, can take effect without Congress' approval. The current 2009 Democratic Congress doesn't have to vote to approve it -- it has only 60 days to disapprove it, which isn't likely because they likely support allowing the agreement to become law.
This agreement would drain more billions from a Social Security system that already lists a $14 trillion liability and assets of only $3.5 trillion, according to a 2003 report generated by the Center for Immigration Studies. And it's worth noting that virtually none of those $3.5 billion in "assets" consists of gold bars or even bundled greenbacks sitting in some government vault.
These so-called "Totalization" agreements are common -- the United States has them with 20 other countries. Their goal is to avoid double taxation when employers assign employees to work temporarily in another country. But, "Totalization” was not designed or intended to cover millions of illegal aliens sneaking past the southern U.S. Border Patrol from what is a borderline Third World country.
The Pew Hispanic Center estimated that there are between 3.4 and 5.7 million unauthorized Mexican citizens in the United States and the Urban Institute has estimated that there are more than 4 million according to GAO-03-993 Social Security Report to Congressional Requesters.
The vast majority of individual tax returns are filed using a social Security Number (SSN) as identification. However, there are instances where alien individuals will file a U.S. tax return. To enable these individuals to file, Treasury Regulations were issued in 1996 to provide them with Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN).
An ITIN is intended for tax purposes only and creates no inference regarding an alien individual’s right to live in the U.S. or be illegally employed here. A study done by the Inspector General’s Office of the Department of Treasury found that 55 percent of illegal aliens who filed income tax returns using tax identification numbers had no federal income tax liability, reflecting their income and large number of dependent.
An analysis of Forms 1040 filed in Tax year 2001 with ITINs found that approximately 530,000 Forms 1040 were filed with ITINs as the primary number by aliens with the number increasing each passing 5 years.
All American’s should be concerned about illegal aliens coming here and getting as good a deal from our government “entitlement” programs with their U.S. Citizenship.
In fact, the illegal aliens are going to get a good deal at the starting gate from the passage of Obama Immigration Reform Bill and next their Social Security Entitlement with the blessing of President Obama, Nancy Pelosi and current Democratic Congress.
Our citizens who were born here can't find work, so let's make it possible for 14 million illegal aliens who have no right to be here to compete for their jobs. That will really help the unemployment situation. Another wonderful idea from the kid's table.
Here's a novel idea, how about securing the border before we start talking about making illegals legal?
According to Governor Rick Perry of Texas, his state has been forced to spend $110 million in state revenue in the past two years to provide border security along his 500 mile section of the border because the US Government isn't fulfilling their responsibilities on the border.
Isn't it about time the federal government did their job, so that these border states no longer have to do it for them?
That actually is one of the duties delineated to the federal government in the constitution, so stop finding ways to stick your noses into areas where the constitution doesn't grant you the authority and start doing the job the constitution assigned you and provide for the defense of the country by securing our borders.
Anonymous says... Subject: FW: What do these 3 have in common? What do Hoover , Truman & Eisenhower Have in Common ? A great way to lower unemployment! HOOVER , TRUMAN AND EISENHOWER Here is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around. I didn't know of this until it was pointed out to me. Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work. Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal's after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.
And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican nationals! The program was called 'Operation Wetback' so that American WWII and Korean veterans had a better chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!
Now, if they could deport the illegal's back then, they can sure do it today!
lf you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself. Reminder. Don't forget to pay your taxes, 12 to 16 million Illegal Aliens are depending on you.
In an interview, Mr. Gutierrez rejected the idea that the timing is bad for an immigration debate. “There is never a wrong time for us,” he said. “Families are being divided and destroyed, and they need help now.”
ReplyDeleteHUH??? Let me understand, A person crosses into another country without permission, gets caught, gets sent back "HOME", but it is the country that he entered without permissions fault that his family is divided????
This is a joke. Seems more like President Obama and his socialist partners are merely trying to cultivate millions of potential new democrat voters to me.
I'll bet Obama's illegal alien aunt will be among the first to become a citizen under the new program. You know, the illegal alien aunt that is living in public funded housing in Boston, as taxpayer expense even though she was ordered deported 3 times, and defied those orders?
ReplyDeletePresiden Obama Solution to Social Security and Immigration Reform Bill?
ReplyDeleteOn June 29, 2004, the U.S. Commissioner of Social Security and The Director General of the Mexican Social Security Institute reached an agreement – ( http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03993.pdf) - the so-called Totalization agreement. Yes, it took three years of wrangling with Freedom of Information Act by the TREA Senior Citizens League to obtain the document entitled “Social Security – Proposed Totalization Agreement with Mexico”.
The seniors group (TREA) knew that if illegal aliens get legal status -- through an amnesty or some sort of legalization plan such as the one the President and the Senate tried to enact in 2006 -- it would allow illegal immigrants, mostly from Mexico, to gain legal status and access to Social Security benefits for their relatives, children and other dependents.
What the agreement reveals is that the United States will permit illegal aliens from Mexico to collect Social Security benefits if they have as little as 18 months of U.S. employment history. In contrast, U.S. citizens must show 10 years -- 40 quarters -- of perfectly legal job history to collect same Social Security benefits.
Despite the fact that it's illegal for employers to knowingly hire individuals who are in this country illegally, the agreement which awaits the President’s Obama signature, can take effect without Congress' approval. The current 2009 Democratic Congress doesn't have to vote to approve it -- it has only 60 days to disapprove it, which isn't likely because they likely support allowing the agreement to become law.
This agreement would drain more billions from a Social Security system that already lists a $14 trillion liability and assets of only $3.5 trillion, according to a 2003 report generated by the Center for Immigration Studies. And it's worth noting that virtually none of those $3.5 billion in "assets" consists of gold bars or even bundled greenbacks sitting in some government vault.
These so-called "Totalization" agreements are common -- the United States has them with 20 other countries. Their goal is to avoid double taxation when employers assign employees to work temporarily in another country. But, "Totalization” was not designed or intended to cover millions of illegal aliens sneaking past the southern U.S. Border Patrol from what is a borderline Third World country.
The Pew Hispanic Center estimated that there are between 3.4 and 5.7 million unauthorized Mexican citizens in the United States and the Urban Institute has estimated that there are more than 4 million according to GAO-03-993 Social Security Report to Congressional Requesters.
The vast majority of individual tax returns are filed using a social Security Number (SSN) as identification. However, there are instances where alien individuals will file a U.S. tax return. To enable these individuals to file, Treasury Regulations were issued in 1996 to provide them with Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN).
An ITIN is intended for tax purposes only and creates no inference regarding an alien individual’s right to live in the U.S. or be illegally employed here. A study done by the Inspector General’s Office of the Department of Treasury found that 55 percent of illegal aliens who filed income tax returns using tax identification numbers had no federal income tax liability, reflecting their income and large number of dependent.
An analysis of Forms 1040 filed in Tax year 2001 with ITINs found that approximately 530,000 Forms 1040 were filed with ITINs as the primary number by aliens with the number increasing each passing 5 years.
All American’s should be concerned about illegal aliens coming here and getting as good a deal from our government “entitlement” programs with their U.S. Citizenship.
In fact, the illegal aliens are going to get a good deal at the starting gate from the passage of Obama Immigration Reform Bill and next their Social Security Entitlement with the blessing of President Obama, Nancy Pelosi and current Democratic Congress.
Our citizens who were born here can't find work, so let's make it possible for 14 million illegal aliens who have no right to be here to compete for their jobs. That will really help the unemployment situation. Another wonderful idea from the kid's table.
ReplyDeleteHere's a novel idea, how about securing the border before we start talking about making illegals legal?
ReplyDeleteAccording to Governor Rick Perry of Texas, his state has been forced to spend $110 million in state revenue in the past two years to provide border security along his 500 mile section of the border because the US Government isn't fulfilling their responsibilities on the border.
Isn't it about time the federal government did their job, so that these border states no longer have to do it for them?
That actually is one of the duties delineated to the federal government in the constitution, so stop finding ways to stick your noses into areas where the constitution doesn't grant you the authority and start doing the job the constitution assigned you and provide for the defense of the country by securing our borders.
Anonymous says...
ReplyDeleteSubject: FW: What do these 3 have in common?
What do Hoover , Truman & Eisenhower Have in Common ? A great way to lower unemployment!
HOOVER , TRUMAN AND EISENHOWER
Here is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around. I didn't know of this until it was pointed out to me.
Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work.
Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal's after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.
And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican nationals! The program was called 'Operation Wetback' so that American WWII and Korean veterans had a better chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!
Now, if they could deport the illegal's back then, they can sure do it today!
lf you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.
Reminder.
Don't forget to pay your taxes, 12 to 16 million Illegal Aliens are depending on you.